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	<title>Comments on: And yet another abstract</title>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, you said &quot;but I can’t match Joel Osteen or Willow Creek.&quot;

Nor should you, I reckon.

I think the beauty about yours and Dan&#039;s and Pete&#039;s work is that they &quot;stay imtimate&quot; so to speak, don&#039;t try to speak to and for everyone, and so remain unafraid to say the important things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, you said &#8220;but I can’t match Joel Osteen or Willow Creek.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nor should you, I reckon.</p>
<p>I think the beauty about yours and Dan&#8217;s and Pete&#8217;s work is that they &#8220;stay imtimate&#8221; so to speak, don&#8217;t try to speak to and for everyone, and so remain unafraid to say the important things.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Lyberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Lyberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the kind words, Dan.  Its true that Wired Jesus tends to be more of a christian &quot;in-house&quot; thing, with many de-churched folks but there are a hefty number of non-Christians as well.  The other large groups seems to be pastor people looking for a postmodern place to hangout.

The sad thing is that most of the postmodern podcasts that I liked listening to have fallen silent - too much time and too hard to compete against all the corporate/megachurch heavyweights.  Three years ago, Wired Jesus was a top 25 religious podcast - today we aren&#039;t even a blip on Itunes radar.  I only have a few thousand listeners who are faithful and do word of mouth for WJP but I can&#039;t match Joel Osteen or Willow Creek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the kind words, Dan.  Its true that Wired Jesus tends to be more of a christian &#8220;in-house&#8221; thing, with many de-churched folks but there are a hefty number of non-Christians as well.  The other large groups seems to be pastor people looking for a postmodern place to hangout.</p>
<p>The sad thing is that most of the postmodern podcasts that I liked listening to have fallen silent &#8211; too much time and too hard to compete against all the corporate/megachurch heavyweights.  Three years ago, Wired Jesus was a top 25 religious podcast &#8211; today we aren&#8217;t even a blip on Itunes radar.  I only have a few thousand listeners who are faithful and do word of mouth for WJP but I can&#8217;t match Joel Osteen or Willow Creek.</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://teusner.org/2008/05/28/and-yet-another-abstract/comment-page-1/#comment-10954</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 09:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dan,

How serendipitous that you should find this post and make a comment! Outchurched is one of the podcasts I was thinking about using. But I lost the downloads and couldn&#039;t remember the URL, so it&#039;s great that you&#039;ve found me, so now I can go to the site and download them again.

SCP and WJP are on my list to discuss. True, WJP wouldn&#039;t be considered very marginal, but I agree Tom does have a certain eye, has a grasp of being &quot;post-church&quot;, at least in relation to the megachurch model.

If you have time, would love to chat more with you and anybody else who may be interested, and I can give you a run-down of my methodology and the main arguments I&#039;d like to pursue, so you can tell me if it works or not.

If you have skype you can find me, username is paulteusner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dan,</p>
<p>How serendipitous that you should find this post and make a comment! Outchurched is one of the podcasts I was thinking about using. But I lost the downloads and couldn&#8217;t remember the URL, so it&#8217;s great that you&#8217;ve found me, so now I can go to the site and download them again.</p>
<p>SCP and WJP are on my list to discuss. True, WJP wouldn&#8217;t be considered very marginal, but I agree Tom does have a certain eye, has a grasp of being &#8220;post-church&#8221;, at least in relation to the megachurch model.</p>
<p>If you have time, would love to chat more with you and anybody else who may be interested, and I can give you a run-down of my methodology and the main arguments I&#8217;d like to pursue, so you can tell me if it works or not.</p>
<p>If you have skype you can find me, username is paulteusner.</p>
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		<title>By: Rev. Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev. Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiya Paul,

This sounds like tremendously interesting research.  I started a podcast approx. three years ago with someone I&#039;d met at a podcasting meetup.  We both had gone to Bible College/ Seminary with the intent/desire to enter full-time ministry and later changed course.  When we started the podcast we were both out of church (hence we named our podcast &quot;Outchurched&quot;) and we tried to have a meaningful discussion about the issues that the disenfranchised face.  I viewed it as a form of therapy that we were recording and sharing.

Outchurched had two &quot;seasons.&quot;  The second involved myself, my friend who had &quot;led me to Christ&quot; as an adult (he&#039;d been involved in full-time ministry for a number of years and was also &quot;outchurched), and a former minister from Canada.

As a direct result of the podcast and blog, I&#039;ve met a number of really great people who have had similar experiences.  I think if outchurched accomplished anything at all that it was sending out the message to the disenfranchised that &quot;you&#039;re not alone.&quot;  The tone of the outchurched blog has changed quite a bit since its inception, mostly because I&#039;ve changed a lot since it was started.  :)

One of our goals was to try to either get people back in church or to help &#039;em move on.  I personally grew a tremendous amount (I hope!) because of it, and I&#039;d love to share stories about my experience with you if it&#039;s interesting to you and/or relevant to your research.

There are a number of other podcasters who were in the same/very similar niche, and perhaps you&#039;d be interested in their stories as well.  (My experience is that we like to talk about this stuff...)

I&#039;d highly recommend the Stupid Church People podcast/blog, Out of Fellowship, Godscrum, and also Wired Jesus.  The Wired Jesus podcast isn&#039;t really in the &quot;disenfranchised&quot; bucket, but I think Tom Lyberg has a clue and asks a lot of good questions.  :)

Best regards,

- Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiya Paul,</p>
<p>This sounds like tremendously interesting research.  I started a podcast approx. three years ago with someone I&#8217;d met at a podcasting meetup.  We both had gone to Bible College/ Seminary with the intent/desire to enter full-time ministry and later changed course.  When we started the podcast we were both out of church (hence we named our podcast &#8220;Outchurched&#8221;) and we tried to have a meaningful discussion about the issues that the disenfranchised face.  I viewed it as a form of therapy that we were recording and sharing.</p>
<p>Outchurched had two &#8220;seasons.&#8221;  The second involved myself, my friend who had &#8220;led me to Christ&#8221; as an adult (he&#8217;d been involved in full-time ministry for a number of years and was also &#8220;outchurched), and a former minister from Canada.</p>
<p>As a direct result of the podcast and blog, I&#8217;ve met a number of really great people who have had similar experiences.  I think if outchurched accomplished anything at all that it was sending out the message to the disenfranchised that &#8220;you&#8217;re not alone.&#8221;  The tone of the outchurched blog has changed quite a bit since its inception, mostly because I&#8217;ve changed a lot since it was started.  <img src='http://teusner.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>One of our goals was to try to either get people back in church or to help &#8216;em move on.  I personally grew a tremendous amount (I hope!) because of it, and I&#8217;d love to share stories about my experience with you if it&#8217;s interesting to you and/or relevant to your research.</p>
<p>There are a number of other podcasters who were in the same/very similar niche, and perhaps you&#8217;d be interested in their stories as well.  (My experience is that we like to talk about this stuff&#8230;)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d highly recommend the Stupid Church People podcast/blog, Out of Fellowship, Godscrum, and also Wired Jesus.  The Wired Jesus podcast isn&#8217;t really in the &#8220;disenfranchised&#8221; bucket, but I think Tom Lyberg has a clue and asks a lot of good questions.  <img src='http://teusner.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>- Dan</p>
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